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Book 2, Chapter 72

130 of 130 chapters in On Divination by Marcus Tullius Cicero

Original Latin

148 Explodatur <igitur> haec quoque somniorum divinatio pariter cum ceteris. Nam, ut vere loquamur, superstitio fusa per gentis oppressit omnium fere animos atque hominum inbecillitatem occupavit. Quod et in iis libris dictum est, qui sunt de natura deorum, et hac disputatione id maxume egimus. Multum enim et nobismet ipsis et nostris profuturi videbamur, si eam funditus sustulissemus. Nec vero (id enim diligenter intellegi volo) superstitione tollenda religio tollitur. Nam et maiorum instituta tueri sacris caerimoniisque retinendis sapientis est, et esse praestantem aliquam aeternamque naturam, et eam suspiciendam admirandamque hominum generi pulchritudo mundi ordoque rerum caelestium cogit confiteri.

149 Quam ob rem, ut religio propaganda etiam est, quae est iuncta cum cognitione naturae, sic superstitionis stirpes omnes eligendae. Instat enim et urget et, quo te cumque verteris, persequitur, sive tu vatem sive tu omen audieris, sive immolaris sive avem aspexeris, si Chaldaeum, si haruspicem videris, si fulserit, si tonuerit, si tactum aliquid erit de caelo, si ostenti simile natum factumve quippiam; quorum necesse est plerumque aliquid eveniat, ut numquam liceat quieta mente consistere.

150 Perfugium videtur omnium laborum et sollicitudinum esse somnus. At ex eo ipso plurumae curae metusque nascuntur; qui quidem ipsi per se minus valerent et magis contemnerentur, nisi somniorum patrocinium philosophi suscepissent, nec ii quidem contemptissimi, sed in primis acuti et consequentia et repugnantia videntes, qui prope iam absoluti et perfecti putantur. Quorum licentiae nisi Carneades restitisset, haud scio an soli iam philosophi iudicarentur. Cum quibus omnis fere nobis disceptatio contentioque est, non quod eos maxume contemnamus, sed quod videntur acutissime sententias suas prudentissimeque defendere. Cum autem proprium sit Academiae iudicium suum nullum interponere, ea probare, quae simillima veri videantur, conferre causas et, quid in quamque sententiam dici possit, expromere, nulla adhibita sua auctoritate iudicium audientium relinquere integrum ac liberum, tenebimus hanc consuetudinem a Socrate traditam eaque inter nos, si tibi, Quinte frater, placebit, quam saepissime utemur. Mihi vero, inquit ille, nihil potest esse iucundius. Quae cum essent dicta, surreximus.

Musean translation

Complete machine-assisted Musean translation, made directly from the Latin in separate source-only tasks and reviewed throughout against it. Both books, all 130 chapters and 282 numbered sections; no historical English translation used. Latin transcription credited to the Perseus Project under CC BY-SA 4.0, Müller’s 1915 Teubner edition.

148 “Let this divination through dreams, then, be driven off the stage along with the rest. To speak the truth, superstition has spread among the nations, crushing almost every mind and taking possession of human weakness. This has been said in the books on the nature of the gods, and making this clear has been our chief purpose in the present discussion. We thought we would greatly benefit both ourselves and our countrymen if we could uproot it altogether. Yet—and I want this clearly understood—abolishing superstition does not abolish religion. It is wise to uphold our ancestors’ institutions by preserving their rites and ceremonies; and the beauty of the universe and the order of the heavenly bodies compel us to acknowledge some surpassing, eternal being that the human race should look up to and admire.

149 “So, just as religion joined with knowledge of nature should even be extended, every root of superstition must be plucked out. It presses upon you, bears down on you, pursues you wherever you turn: if you hear a prophet or an ominous word, offer a sacrifice or catch sight of a bird, see a Chaldean or a haruspex; if lightning flashes, thunder sounds, something is struck from heaven, or anything resembling a portent is born or comes to pass. Some such thing is bound to happen much of the time, so that the mind is never allowed to rest in peace.

150 “Sleep seems a refuge from every hardship and anxiety. Yet from sleep itself arise a host of cares and fears. These would have less force in themselves, and would be more readily dismissed, had philosophers not taken up the defense of dreams—not the most contemptible philosophers, either, but men exceptionally acute, able to perceive what follows and what conflicts, already thought almost complete and perfect in wisdom. Had Carneades not opposed their license, I suspect they would by now be considered the only philosophers. Nearly all our argument and contention is with them, not because we hold them in the greatest contempt, but because they seem to defend their views with the greatest subtlety and judgment. Since it is the Academy’s distinctive practice to impose no judgment of its own, to approve what seems most like the truth, to compare arguments and bring out what can be said for each position, and, without lending its own authority, to leave the hearer’s judgment independent and free, we shall hold to this practice handed down from Socrates. If you agree, my brother Quintus, we shall employ it between ourselves as often as possible.” “Nothing,” he said, “could give me greater pleasure.” With these words, we rose.

Plain English translation

Complete machine-assisted Plain English translation, made independently and directly from the Latin, never from the Musean edition. Both books and every numbered section; a separate Latin-source model review covered the entire text. No human specialist review is claimed.

148 “So let this divination through dreams be rejected along with all the rest. To tell the truth, superstition has spread through the nations, weighed down almost everyone's mind, and taken hold of human weakness. The books called The Nature of the Gods made this point; in this debate too, getting rid of superstition has been our chief concern. We thought we would greatly benefit ourselves and our people if we pulled it out by the roots. But I want this clearly understood: removing superstition does not remove religion. It is wise to protect our ancestors' institutions by keeping their sacred rites and ceremonies. And we cannot deny what the universe's beauty and the ordered heavens show us: a supreme, eternal being exists, and humanity ought to look up to it with admiration.

149 “So just as religion connected with the knowledge of nature should even be spread, every root of superstition must be pulled out. It crowds in and gives you no relief, following you whichever way you go: if someone prophesies within your hearing or you catch words taken as an omen, if you sacrifice or see a bird, if you see a Chaldean or a haruspex, if lightning flashes or thunder sounds, if something is struck from the sky, or if something resembling a portent is born or happens. One of these things is bound to happen often, so you can never settle down with a peaceful mind.

150 “Sleep seems to be a refuge from all our troubles and anxieties. Yet that very thing produces a great many worries and fears. These would matter less in themselves and be more readily dismissed if philosophers had not taken up the defense of dreams. And these are not the most worthless philosophers. They are among the sharpest, able to see what follows from an argument and what contradicts it, and are now considered close to perfect in every way. If Carneades had not opposed their reckless claims, I am not sure they would not by now be judged the only philosophers. Nearly all our argument and debate is with them, not because we despise them most, but because, when they argue for their own views, no one seems sharper or more careful. The Academy has its own way of working: it commits to no judgment, accepts whatever looks closest to the truth, sets arguments side by side, and lays out what can be said for each position. It adds no authority of its own, but leaves listeners completely free to make their own judgment. We will keep this practice handed down from Socrates. If it pleases you, my brother Quintus, we will use it between ourselves as often as possible.” “Nothing could please me more,” he said. With that, we got up.

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