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Stephanus 24e
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ἀλλʼ οὐ τοῦτο ἐρωτῶ, ὦ βέλτιστε, ἀλλὰ τίς ἄνθρωπος, ὅστις πρῶτον καὶ αὐτὸ τοῦτο οἶδε, τοὺς νόμους;οὗτοι, ὦ Σώκρατες, οἱ δικασταί.πῶς λέγεις, ὦ Μέλητε; οἵδε τοὺς νέους παιδεύειν οἷοί τέ εἰσι καὶ βελτίους ποιοῦσιν;μάλιστα.πότερον ἅπαντες, ἢ οἱ μὲν αὐτῶν, οἱ δʼ οὔ;ἅπαντες.εὖ γε νὴ τὴν Ἥραν λέγεις καὶ πολλὴν ἀφθονίαν τῶν ὠφελούντων. τί δὲ δή; οἱ δὲ ἀκροαταὶ βελτίους ποιοῦσιν
Mouseia
Mouseia’s complete machine-assisted Musean translation, made directly from the complete Ancient Greek text across all 125 Stephanus sections for fidelity, philosophical precision, Socratic voice, legal clarity, and structure.
But that is not what I am asking, my excellent fellow. I am asking what person—someone who, first of all, knows this very thing, the laws.
These men, Socrates—the jurors.
What are you saying, Meletus? Are these men capable of educating the young and making them better?
Certainly.
All of them, or some of them but not others?
All of them.
Well said, by Hera! You have found a great abundance of benefactors. And what of the audience here? Do they make the young better
Mouseia
Mouseia’s complete Plain English edition, made independently and directly from all 125 Ancient Greek Stephanus sections.
But that is not what I am asking, excellent man. I am asking what person, who in the first place knows this very thing, the laws?These men, Socrates, the jurors.What do you mean, Meletus? Are these men capable of educating the young and making them better?Certainly.All of them, or some of them but not others?All of them.Well said, by Hera! That is a great abundance of people who benefit them. What about the members of the audience? Do they make them better