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Stephanus 41e
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τοῦτο αὐτοῖς ἄξιον μέμφεσθαι. τοσόνδε μέντοι αὐτῶν δέομαι· τοὺς ὑεῖς μου, ἐπειδὰν ἡβήσωσι, τιμωρήσασθε, ὦ ἄνδρες, ταὐτὰ ταῦτα λυποῦντες ἅπερ ἐγὼ ὑμᾶς ἐλύπουν, ἐὰν ὑμῖν δοκῶσιν ἢ χρημάτων ἢ ἄλλου του πρότερον ἐπιμελεῖσθαι ἢ ἀρετῆς, καὶ ἐὰν δοκῶσί τι εἶναι μηδὲν ὄντες, ὀνειδίζετε αὐτοῖς ὥσπερ ἐγὼ ὑμῖν, ὅτι οὐκ ἐπιμελοῦνται ὧν δεῖ, καὶ οἴονταί τι εἶναι ὄντες οὐδενὸς ἄξιοι. καὶ ἐὰν
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for that they deserve reproach. This much, however, I ask of them: when my sons come of age, punish them, gentlemen, by troubling them in the very same way that I troubled you, if they seem to you to care for money or anything else before virtue; and if they imagine themselves to be something when they are nothing, reproach them as I reproached you, because they do not care for what they ought and think themselves important when they are worth nothing. And if
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for that they deserve blame. Still, I ask this much of them: when my sons come of age, gentlemen, punish them by troubling them in the very same ways I troubled you, if you think they care about money or anything else more than virtue; and if they think they are something when they are nothing, reproach them as I reproached you, because they do not care about what they should and think they are something when they are worth nothing. And if