Plato · Complete work
Stephanus 67
Stephanus 67 of 76. Read it here for reference, or continue through the entire work without leaving the reader.
Open the complete readerOriginal Ancient Greek
67a ἕπεται. δύʼ οὖν ταῦτα ἀνώνυμα τὰ τούτων ποικίλματα γέγονεν, οὐκ ἐκ πολλῶν οὐδὲ ἁπλῶν εἰδῶν ὄντα, ἀλλὰ διχῇ τό θʼ ἡδὺ καὶ τὸ λυπηρὸν αὐτόθι μόνω διαφανῆ λέγεσθον, τὸ μὲν τραχῦνόν τε καὶ βιαζόμενον τὸ κύτος ἅπαν, ὅσον ἡμῶν μεταξὺ κορυφῆς τοῦ τε ὀμφαλοῦ κεῖται, τὸ δὲ ταὐτὸν τοῦτο καταπραῧνον καὶ πάλιν ᾗ πέφυκεν ἀγαπητῶς ἀποδιδόν.
τρίτον δὲ αἰσθητικὸν ἐν ἡμῖν μέρος ἐπισκοποῦσιν τὸ περὶ 67b τὴν ἀκοήν, διʼ ἃς αἰτίας τὰ περὶ αὐτὸ συμβαίνει παθήματα, λεκτέον. ὅλως μὲν οὖν φωνὴν θῶμεν τὴν διʼ ὤτων ὑπʼ ἀέρος ἐγκεφάλου τε καὶ αἵματος μέχρι ψυχῆς πληγὴν διαδιδομένην, τὴν δὲ ὑπʼ αὐτῆς κίνησιν, ἀπὸ τῆς κεφαλῆς μὲν ἀρχομένην, τελευτῶσαν δὲ περὶ τὴν τοῦ ἥπατος ἕδραν, ἀκοήν· ὅση δʼ αὐτῆς ταχεῖα, ὀξεῖαν, ὅση δὲ βραδυτέρα, βαρυτέραν· τὴν δὲ ὁμοίαν ὁμαλήν τε καὶ λείαν, τὴν δὲ ἐναντίαν τραχεῖαν· 67c μεγάλην δὲ τὴν πολλήν, ὅση δὲ ἐναντία, σμικράν. τὰ δὲ περὶ συμφωνίας αὐτῶν ἐν τοῖς ὕστερον λεχθησομένοις ἀνάγκη ῥηθῆναι.
τέταρτον δὴ λοιπὸν ἔτι γένος ἡμῖν αἰσθητικόν, ὃ διελέσθαι δεῖ συχνὰ ἐν ἑαυτῷ ποικίλματα κεκτημένον, ἃ σύμπαντα μὲν χρόας ἐκαλέσαμεν, φλόγα τῶν σωμάτων ἑκάστων ἀπορρέουσαν, ὄψει σύμμετρα μόρια ἔχουσαν πρὸς αἴσθησιν· ὄψεως δʼ ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν αὐτὸ περὶ τῶν αἰτίων τῆς γενέσεως 67d ἐρρήθη. τῇδʼ οὖν τῶν χρωμάτων πέρι μάλιστα εἰκὸς πρέποι τʼ ἂν ἐπιεικεῖ λόγῳ διεξελθεῖν· τὰ φερόμενα ἀπὸ τῶν ἄλλων μόρια ἐμπίπτοντά τε εἰς τὴν ὄψιν τὰ μὲν ἐλάττω, τὰ δὲ μείζω, τὰ δʼ ἴσα τοῖς αὐτῆς τῆς ὄψεως μέρεσιν εἶναι· τὰ μὲν οὖν ἴσα ἀναίσθητα, ἃ δὴ καὶ διαφανῆ λέγομεν, τὰ δὲ μείζω καὶ ἐλάττω, τὰ μὲν συγκρίνοντα, τὰ δὲ διακρίνοντα αὐτήν, τοῖς περὶ τὴν σάρκα θερμοῖς καὶ ψυχροῖς καὶ τοῖς 67e περὶ τὴν γλῶτταν στρυφνοῖς, καὶ ὅσα θερμαντικὰ ὄντα δριμέα ἐκαλέσαμεν, ἀδελφὰ εἶναι, τά τε λευκὰ καὶ τὰ μέλανα, ἐκείνων παθήματα γεγονότα ἐν ἄλλῳ γένει τὰ αὐτά, φανταζόμενα δὲ ἄλλα διὰ ταύτας τὰς αἰτίας.
ΤΙ. οὕτως οὖν αὐτὰ προσρητέον· τὸ μὲν διακριτικὸν τῆς ὄψεως λευκόν, τὸ δʼ ἐναντίον αὐτοῦ μέλαν, τὴν δὲ ὀξυτέραν φορὰν καὶ γένους πυρὸς ἑτέρου προσπίπτουσαν καὶ διακρίνουσαν τὴν ὄψιν μέχρι τῶν ὀμμάτων, αὐτάς τε τῶν ὀφθαλμῶν τὰς διεξόδους
Musean translation
Mouseia's complete machine-assisted Musean translation, made directly from the complete Greek text (John Burnet's Oxford edition, Perseus Digital Library) across all 76 Stephanus pages and 364 sections, including the Atlantis prologue (20d–26e), for fidelity, philosophical precision, dialogue, and structure.
67a follows. Hence these variations of theirs have come to be nameless—not arising from many kinds, nor from simple ones—and here only the pleasant and the painful show themselves plainly, spoken of in two ways: the one roughening and doing violence to the whole cavity within us, as much of us as lies between the crown of the head and the navel; the other soothing this same region and giving it back, gratefully, to its natural state.
Examining the third sensitive region in us, about 67b hearing, we must say by what causes its affections occur. Let us define voice, in general, as the blow passed through the ears by air, brain and blood, clear to the soul; and hearing as the motion this blow sets up, beginning at the head and ending at the seat of the liver: so much of it as is swift makes the sound high, so much as slower makes it deep; the uniform is smooth and level, its opposite rough; 67c what is much is loud, its opposite small. Of their consonance with one another we must speak in what comes later.
A fourth sensitive kind still remains for us, which we must divide—it holds many varieties within itself. All of them we called colors: a flame streaming off each of the bodies, its particles matched in scale to sight for perception; and of sight's coming to be, the causes were told earlier. 67d Here then, about colors, above all, a fair account ought to make its way through in order: the particles traveling from other bodies and falling upon sight are some smaller, some larger, some equal to the parts of sight itself. The equal are imperceptible—these are what we call transparent; the larger and the smaller, the one combining sight, the other dividing it, are brothers to 67e the hot and the cold about our flesh, the astringent about the tongue, and the kinds we named pungent for their heating: white and black are these same affections come to be in another kind, yet appearing different through these causes.
Timaeus: So they should be named: what divides sight is white; its opposite, black; and the swifter current of another kind of fire, which falls upon and divides sight clear to the eyes, and the very outflows of the eyes
Plain English translation
Mouseia's complete Plain English edition, made independently and directly from all 76 Stephanus pages of the Greek.
67a follows. That is why the many varieties of these two have come to be nameless. They are not made of many simple kinds. In that place only two show plainly: the pleasant and the painful. The painful kind is rough and forces the whole cavity, the part of us that lies between the crown of the head and the navel. The pleasant kind is the same thing in reverse: it soothes, and gives back again graciously, as its nature is.
A third perceptive part in us to examine is 67b hearing, and we must say what causes its conditions. Let us say in general that sound is a blow carried through the ears by air, brain, and blood, all the way to the soul. Hearing is the movement that blow sets up: it begins at the head and ends at the seat of the liver. The faster it moves, the higher the sound; the slower it is, the lower. The movement that is even is smooth and level; the opposite is rough. 67c A great movement is loud; the opposite is soft. The harmony of these sounds must be treated in what will be said later.
One sense kind is still left, the fourth. It has many varieties within it, and we must divide them. We called all of them together colors: a flame that streams off each body, made of particles matched in size to sight for perception. The causes of the birth of sight were told 67d earlier. About colors, then, a fair and fitting account should go through them. Particles travel from other bodies and fall on sight. Some are smaller than the parts of sight, some larger, some the same size. The ones of the same size are not felt at all; we call these transparent. The larger and the smaller ones act on sight: the larger combine it, the smaller divide it. White and black are brother and sister to the hot and cold in the flesh, to the harsh 67e things of the tongue, and to the heating things we called pungent. They are those same conditions born again in a different kind, but they appear as something else for these reasons.
Timaeus: So we should name them this way. White is what divides sight. Black is its opposite. The swifter motion of another kind of fire strikes and splits sight all the way out to the eyes, and it forces the passages of the eyes themselves
R. G. Bury (1929) translation
Public-domain Loeb translation from the Greek (Plato in Twelve Volumes, vol. 9, Harvard University Press, 1929), in the Perseus Digital Library's digital text, with the same Stephanus pages and sections as the Greek.
67a not being derived either from many or from simple forms, but are indicated by two distinctive terms only, pleasant and painful of which the one kind roughens and violently affects the whole of our bodily cavity which lies between the head and the navel, whereas the other mollifies this same region and restores it agreeably to its natural condition.
The third organ of perception within us which we have to describe in our survey is that of hearing, 67b and the causes whereby its affections are produced. In general, then, let us lay it down that sound is a stroke transmitted through the ears, by the action of the air upon the brain and the blood, and reaching to the soul; and that the motion caused thereby, which begins in the head and ends about the seat of the liver, is hearing; and that every rapid motion produces a shrill sound, and every slower motion a more deep sound; and that uniform motion produces an even and smooth sound and the opposite kind of motion a harsh sound; 67c and that large motion produces loud sound, and motion of the opposite kind soft sound. The subject of concords of sounds must necessarily be treated in a later part of our exposition.
We have still remaining a fourth kind of sensation, which we must divide up seeing that it embraces numerous varieties, which, as a whole, we call colors. This consists of a flame which issues from the several bodies, and possesses particles so proportioned to the visual stream as to produce sensation; and as regards the visual stream, we have already stated merely the causes which produced it. 67d Concerning colors, then, the following explanation will be the most probable and worthy of a judicious account. Of the particles which fly off from the rest and strike into the visual stream some are smaller, some larger, and some equal to the particles of the stream itself; those, then, that are equal are imperceptible, and we term them transparent; while the larger and smaller particles—of which the one kind contracts, the other dilates the visual stream—are akin to the particles of heat and cold which affect the flesh, 67e and to the astringent particles which affect the tongue, and to all the heating particles which we call bitter with these white and black are really identical affections, occurring in a separate class of sensation, although they appear different for the causes stated.
Timaeus: These, therefore, are the names we must assign to them: that which dilates the visual stream is white and the opposite thereof black; and the more rapid motion, being that of a different species of fire, which strikes upon the visual stream and dilates it as far as to the eyes, and penetrating