Book 3, Chapter 33
Original Latin
79 ne illa quidem firmissima consolatio est, quamquam et usitata est et saepe prodest: ‘non tibi hoc soli.’ prodest haec quidem, ut dixi, sed nec semper nec omnibus; sunt enim qui respuant; sed refert, quo modo adhibeatur. ut enim tulerit quisque eorum qui sapienter tulerunt, non quo quisque incommodo adfectus sit, praedicandum est. Chrysippi ad veritatem firmissima est, ad tempus aegritudinis difficilis. magnum opus est probare maerenti illum suo iudicio et, quod se ita putet oportere facere, maerere. Nimirum igitur, ut in causis non semper utimur eodem statu—sic enim appellamus controversiarum genera—, sed ad tempus, ad controversiae naturam, ad personam accommodamus, sic in aegritudine lenienda, quam quisque curationem recipere possit, videndum est.
80 Sed nescio quo pacto ab eo, quod erat a te propositum, aberravit oratio. tu enim de sapiente quaesieras, cui aut malum videri nullum potest, quod vacet turpitudine, aut ita parvum malum, ut id obruatur sapientia vixque appareat, qui nihil opinione adfingat adsumatque ad aegritudinem nec id putet esse rectum, se quam maxume excruciari luctuque confici, quo pravius nihil esse possit. edocuit tamen ratio, ut mihi quidem videtur, cum hoc ipsum proprie non quaereretur hoc tempore, num quod esset malum nisi quod idem dici turpe posset, tamen ut videremus, quicquid esset in aegritudine mali, id non naturale esse, sed voluntario iudicio et opinionis errore contractum.
81 Tractatum est autem a nobis id genus aegritudinis, quod unum est omnium maxumum, ut eo sublato reliquorum remedia ne magnopere quaerenda arbitraremur.
Musean translation
Complete machine-assisted translation from the Latin. Latin transcription by the Perseus Project, Trustees of Tufts University, CC BY-SA 4.0.
79 “Not even this is the strongest consolation, though it is common and often helpful: ‘This has not happened to you alone.’ As I said, it does help, but not always and not everyone, for some reject it. Much depends on how it is applied. We must emphasize how each of those who bore things wisely endured them, not what misfortune each suffered. Chrysippus’ consolation is the strongest in point of truth, but difficult to use in the midst of distress. It is a great task to prove to someone grieving that he grieves by his own judgment and because he thinks he ought to act so. Surely, then, just as in legal cases we do not always use the same issue—that is our term for the kinds of controversy—but adapt it to the occasion, the nature of the dispute, and the person, so in relieving distress we must consider what treatment each person can accept.
80 “But somehow our discussion has wandered from the subject you proposed. You asked about the wise person, to whom nothing free of shamefulness can seem evil, or can seem only so slight an evil that wisdom overwhelms it and it scarcely appears. He adds nothing by opinion to increase distress, nor does he think it right to torment himself as much as possible and wear himself out in mourning—a belief than which nothing could be more perverse. Yet reasoning has taught us, I think, even though we were not now specifically asking whether anything was evil unless it could also be called shameful, to see that whatever evil there is in distress is not natural, but incurred through voluntary judgment and mistaken opinion.
81 “We have treated that kind of distress which is the greatest of all, so that, once it was removed, we might consider the remedies for the others hardly worth much searching.”
Plain English translation
Complete independent machine-assisted translation directly from the Latin. Latin transcription by the Perseus Project, Trustees of Tufts University, CC BY-SA 4.0.
79 “A common, often helpful consolation is ‘Others have suffered this as well.’ It isn’t completely reliable either. Useful, yes, as I said—but some reject it; it doesn’t help everyone at every time. The way we offer it matters. Don’t stress the particular trouble each person suffered. Stress the way people of good judgment endured it. For truth, Chrysippus’ comfort has the strongest foundation; for someone in the middle of grief, it’s hard to apply. Persuading a mourner that their own judgment and sense of obligation are responsible for their grief is a formidable undertaking. Think of a lawsuit. We don’t always employ the same ‘issue,’ our term for kinds of disputed question. We adjust to the occasion, the sort of dispute, and the individual. Easing distress calls for the same approach: find out which remedy this particular person can take.
80 “But somehow our discussion has wandered away from your proposal. You asked about a wise person. Such a person can see nothing as bad if it involves no moral wrong, or sees it as so slightly bad that wisdom buries it and it’s barely visible. They don’t invent or add anything to distress through belief, or think it’s right to torment themselves as much as possible and be worn out by grief. Nothing could be more misguided than that. Still, our argument seems to me to have taught us something. We weren’t specifically asking just now whether anything could be bad unless it could also be called morally wrong. Even so, we saw that whatever badness there is in distress isn’t natural: it’s brought on by a voluntary judgment and a mistaken belief.
81 “We’ve dealt with that form of distress which is the greatest of all. Once that’s removed, we thought we wouldn’t have to search very hard for remedies for the rest.”
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