Book 3, Chapter 27
Original Latin
64 haec omnia recta vera debita putantes faciunt in dolore, maximeque declaratur hoc quasi officii iudicio fieri, quod, si qui forte, cum se in luctu esse vellent, aliquid fecerunt humanius aut si hilarius locuti sunt, revocant se rursus ad maestitiam peccatique se insimulant, quod dolere intermiserint. pueros vero matres et magistri castigare etiam solent, nec verbis solum, sed etiam verberibus, si quid in domestico luctu hilarius ab is factum est aut dictum, plorare cogunt. Quid? ipsa remissio luctus cum est consecuta intellectumque est nihil profici maerendo, nonne res declarat fuisse totum illud voluntarium?
65 Quid ille Terentianus ‘ipse se poeniens’, id est ἑαυτὸν τιμωρούμενος? Decrévi tantispér me minus iniúriae, Chremés, meo gnato fácere, dum fiám miser. hic decernit, ut miser sit. num quis igitur quicquam decernit invitus? ‘malo quidem me quovis dignum deputem—’ malo se dignum deputat, nisi miser sit. vides ergo opinionis esse, non naturae malum. Quid, quos res ipsa lugere prohibet? ut apud Homerum cotidianae neces interitusque multorum sedationem maerendi adferunt, apud quem ita dicitur: Namque nimis multos atque omni luce cadentis Cernimus, ut nemo possit maerore vacare. Quo magis est aequum tumulis mandare peremptos Firmo animo et luctum lacrimis finire diurnis.
66 Ergo in potestate est abicere dolorem, cum velis, tempori servientem. an est ullum tempus, quoniam quidem res in nostra potestate est, cui non ponendae curae <et> aegritudinis causa serviamus? constabat eos, qui concidentem volneribus Cn. Pompeium vidissent, cum in illo ipso acerbissimo miserrimoque spectaculo sibi timerent, quod se classe hostium circumfusos viderent, nihil aliud tum egisse, nisi ut remiges hortarentur et ut salutem adipiscerentur fuga; posteaquam Tyrum venissent, tum adflictari lamentarique coepisse. timor igitur ab his aegritudinem potuit repellere, ratio ab sapienti viro non poterit?
Musean translation
Complete machine-assisted translation from the Latin. Latin transcription by the Perseus Project, Trustees of Tufts University, CC BY-SA 4.0.
64 “In their pain they do all these things because they think them right, proper, and owed. That they act from a kind of judgment of duty is especially clear from this: if people who wish to remain in mourning happen to have done something more natural, or spoken rather cheerfully, they call themselves back to sadness and accuse themselves of wrongdoing for having interrupted their grief. Mothers and teachers even punish children, not only with words but with blows, if they have done or said anything cheerful during mourning at home, and force them to weep. What of this? Once mourning itself has eased and it is understood that grieving achieves nothing, does the fact not show that the whole thing was voluntary?
65 “What of Terence’s ‘self-tormentor’—that is what the Greek title means? “‘I have decided I do my son less wrong, “‘Chremes, so long as I make myself miserable.’ “Here he decides to be miserable. Does anyone decide anything against his will? ‘I would think myself deserving of every evil—’ He thinks himself deserving of evil unless he is miserable. You see, then, that the evil lies in opinion, not in nature. What of those whom circumstances themselves forbid to mourn? In Homer the daily slaughter and deaths of many bring a quieting of grief. He says: “‘For we see too many falling, and on every day, “‘For anyone to find a respite from mourning. “‘All the more must we commit the dead to their graves “‘With steadfast hearts, and end our grief with one day’s tears.’
66 “So it is in your power to cast off pain when you wish, in obedience to the needs of the moment. Or is there any moment whose demands we should not obey for the sake of laying aside care <and> distress, since this is indeed within our power? It was established that those who saw Gnaeus Pompey falling under his wounds, even amid that most bitter and miserable spectacle, feared for themselves because they saw the enemy fleet surrounding them, and did nothing then but urge on the rowers and seek safety in flight. After they reached Tyre, they began to beat their breasts and lament. Could fear drive distress out of them, then, while reason cannot drive it out of a wise man?”
Plain English translation
Complete independent machine-assisted translation directly from the Latin. Latin transcription by the Perseus Project, Trustees of Tufts University, CC BY-SA 4.0.
64 “People in pain do all this thinking it’s right, proper, and required. There’s a particularly clear sign that they act on a judgment of supposed duty. If people who want to be in mourning happen to do something more natural or speak a little more cheerfully, they pull themselves back into sadness and accuse themselves of wrongdoing because they stopped grieving. Mothers and teachers even punish children, not just with words but with blows, if they’ve said or done anything too cheerful while the household is in mourning. They force them to cry. And what about when grief itself eases and people realize that mourning achieves nothing? Doesn’t that show the whole thing was voluntary?
65 “Consider the man in Terence’s Self-Tormentor, or Heauton Timoroumenos: “‘Here’s my decision: I’m doing less wrong to my son, “‘Chremes, while I make myself miserable.’ “His misery is a decision. Can a decision be against the decider’s will? ‘I’d count myself fit for any suffering—’ Unless he’s miserable, he thinks he deserves suffering. So the evil belongs to his belief, you see, not to nature. Then there are situations that leave no room for mourning. Homer describes daily killing and great numbers of deaths bringing grief to a halt: “‘Too many fall before our eyes, and on every day, “‘For any of us to be able to go without mourning. “‘All the more reason to bury those killed “‘Steadfastly, and finish mourning with the tears of a day.’
66 “Then we can dismiss pain when we want, by responding to circumstances. If it’s under our control, why ever fail to respond to a situation that calls for us to lay anxiety and distress aside? We know what happened to the witnesses of Gnaeus Pompey’s collapse under his wounds. Even before that most horrible and wretched sight they were frightened for their own lives: an enemy fleet surrounded them. At that moment they did nothing except spur the rowers on and seek safety in escape. Their beating of themselves and lamenting began only on arrival in Tyre. If fear was able to keep distress out in their case, can’t reason do it in someone wise?”
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Book 3, Chapter 27 is part of Tusculan Disputations by Marcus Tullius Cicero. This page sets the Latin original beside 2 direct-source translations, so any line can be checked against the source. It is chapter 103 of 189 in the work, which is kept in the Roman tradition.
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